My question, as we start to stock our boat, is:

I always thought ...Read more]]> We recently purchased a Com-Pac 23 (an upgrade from a Com-Pac 19). We take many extended stays on the water throughout the summer, hoping to someday take off for the big blue waters.

My question, as we start to stock our boat, is:

What organizing tips and tricks do your contributors have for us rookies?

I always thought it was Ben Franklin who coined the phrase, “A place for everything and everything in its place.“

But not surprisingly, according to Phrase Finder, several early citations are from nautical contexts. Here’s an example from Frederick Marryat’s Masterman Ready or the Wreck of the Pacific, 1842: “In a well conducted man-o-war, every thing is in its place and there is a place for every thing.”

Unorganized organization

I have my own version of this: “There is a pile for every thing and every thing is in its pile.”

I am a “pilot”. I pile it here and I pile it there.

However, on the boat that is not an option. We have to be able to put our hands on what we need quickly. So it is imperative that everything on the boat has a designated spot and is returned to that spot when not in use.

Anybody remember what we put in there?

We even tell each other where we are putting something new so that, hopefully, one of us will remember where it is.

Over the last several days we have been stocking Wrinkles. Storage on this boat is completely different from our previous boat. There is significantly more storage but in different configurations from the CP-19.

We have shelves with doors along the port and starboard sides of the cabin that we didn’t have before. There are also two long compartments under the side berths that provide room for the larger items. However, we lost the galley that Mike made for the CP 19 that had two pull-put drawers.  Now we get to find the perfect places for all the things we carry.  We need to remember that just because there is more room doesn’t mean we need to carry more stuff. Well maybe one more ……

Storage behind doors by side berths

I’m sure there will be a trip to the local discount store to find containers that will fit the various shaped cubbies.

The compartment under the side berths is long and narrow with only an 18″ square opening for access.  The previous owners used a system we had heard other sailors mention – rectangular plastic tubs hooked together by a rope in a train-like fashion.  The tubs can be slid back and forth so that the needed item is positioned under the opening.  I think this might be the perfect spot for canned goods, coffee press, pitcher, etc. on one side and water cannon, slushie mobile, flashlights, etc. on the other.

I’ve had to retrain myself for life on a boat.  I try very hard to not just set something down – I take the extra couple of seconds needed to make sure the item is returned to its correct spot.  Now if I could only accomplish this on my desk! (and my bathroom counter, and…)

Brenda

About Brenda Greene

Brenda is new to sailing. She and her husband Mike (high school sweethearts) began sailing five or six years ago. They started out on a Sunfish and were instantly hooked. They bought a Com-Pac 16 to learn more about sailing and then moved up to the Com-Pac 19 for more room. Last summer they spent 30 nights at anchor.

Brenda is definitely not just along for the ride when it comes to sailing. She splits time at the tiller, hanks on sails and handles the anchoring duties. Sailing as a team ranks high on her list. Recently they upgraded again to the Com-Pac 23 (Wrinkles). The goal, now that they are empty nesters, is to get as much sailing experience as possible in the next two years and then sell the house, buy a seaworthy boat, and sail to ports unknown. “We don’t have very deep pockets. We do all the work on the boat ourselves. (OK, Mike does most of the work). We aren’t minimalists, but rather prefer to keep things simple.”

Brenda is a middle school special education and reading teacher. Mike, no matter what his job, would prefer to be retired! When not sailing, Brenda is a keeper of memories – scrapbooking and blogging about their experiences to help their friends and family understand and share in the pursuit of their dream.

Here is their blog: Wrinkles in Our Sails

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I cruised with a hard dinghy for a number ...Read more]]> Paul writes

I’m “right in the middle” on whether I want to take a RIB (Rigid Inflatable Boat) or hard dinghy to the Bahamas and Caribbean.What do you recommend?

Kathy Parsons and Gwen Hamlin answer.

1) Kathy Parsons: I have used both. Next time I will get another RIB.

I cruised with a hard dinghy for a number of years.

We found a 12 foot Sears Gamefisher – it was actually plastic. It was getting a bit old and we ended up reinforcing it a bit with fiberglass especially in the transom.

It was a wonderful dinghy especially since those were years when we spearfished constantly.

It was a big dinghy, planed easily, didn’t pound in seas, and unlike many hard dinghies, it was easy to get into from the water. I could even stand on the gunnels without tipping it.

We didn’t have to worry that we would puncture it when we brought aboard fish and lobsters. And it rowed well!

It did have its disadvantages though:

• It required very stout heavy-duty davits when we carried it on the stern.
• It could be a pain in areas with a lot of current – it could bang against the hull if we didn’t have it tied well with fenders.
• It was hard to put up on deck for passages and took lots of room. (I had a Whitby 42 at the time so it was manageable: it would have been too big for my current Downeast 38!). It took a 15hp outboard.

And once (long story) we swamped it with guests aboard at 2 in the morning! Eventually it wore out and we gave it to a Trini.

We now have a RIB.

It is a good dinghy for our Downeast 38. We have a 9.9hp outboard that is easier for us to get aboard. We can plane with it. It doesn’t look like much anymore after 12 years in the tropics but it still holds air well thanks to refurbishing by a good dinghy repairman (we have done this twice).

If we replaced it, we would get another RIB.

My friend Debbie single-hands and found her 12 foot inflatable and large outboard too much for her and her 29 foot Island Packet. She loves her little Walker Bay dinghy and small outboard. She can row it too. Plus she has the sailing rig for it.

Good luck with your decision. And happy cruising! Keep in touch!

All the best,

Kathy

2) Gwen Hamlin: Dinghy choice depends A LOT on what you think you want to do with it.

For us, diving and snorkeling was a very large part of what we wanted to do while cruising, and the dinghy becomes a really important part of those activities, because it is safer and easier to position yourself on a desirable reef with a dinghy than with a big boat.  And if there is any roll, managing scuba tanks on the big boat deck can be dicey.  From the start of my charter biz through the end of my cruising career (which isn’t exactly over, just on hold), I set up my dive gear in the dinghy 98% of the time.

My first dinghy in the charter business was an Achilles with an aluminum floor and a soft bottom and a 25hp Yamaha.This was a great dinghy.

It was light enough to pull onto the beach and the aluminum floor gave a us a solid surface for standing and working with dive gear and the pontoons were small enough that it was easy for my divers to get back into from the water. The smaller pontoons did make for a slightly wetter ride in choppy conditions.

As a charter boat in the BVI, I never lifted the dinghy out, but towed it behind.  That meant the bottom got gross often and eventually I put bottom paint on it.  But then, on the one occasion I did go cruising down island with it, I got bottom paint all over the boat deck.  A mess.  It would have been easy to lift the dinghy at night alongside the boat as we did in later years cruising which would have kept the bottom clean without the bottom paint and work!  Live and learn.

My second dinghy was a really big 13′ Caribe that I bought from another charter boat.  This dinghy was a big mistake.

Yes, it was bigger so I could accommodate up to four divers, and the ride was drier, BUT the big pontoons made it very hard to get out of the water, and even dinghy ladders didn’t really help.

It needed a huge 40hp engine which went very fast…maybe dangerously so! — and the engine which did not have automatic tilt was a struggle to tilt.   It was very hard to see over the bow when motoring slowly, and the drag behind the boat was marked.  This dinghy came with the name Jaws, and it was well named; it loomed over you!

It was handy after the awful hurricanes we had in St. Thomas in 1995 for hauling ground tackle and tugboat boats around, but then I had few options for securing it during storms. (We staked it out like a big boat, partially deflated the pontoons, and pulled the plug to let it fill with water so it couldn’t fly around…a very effective system for any dinghy you can’t get on deck.)

My next dinghy, still in the charter mentality, was a great deal I got after the bad hurricane season.

This was a Boston Whaler v-hull all set up with a little dive platform (and bimini and railings which I got rid of). This dinghy also had a 40hp engine, but with power tilt and engine start battery!  It was speedy in a comfortable way and I equipped it with tanks holders which made it a great dive tender.  Still it was heavy to tow and, like the big Caribe, there was no option to get it out of the water onto my 44′, nor could I have hoisted either big dinghy alongside at night without producing a major list in the big boat!

Our last dinghy was an AB 10.4 RIB with a 15hp outboard.  We chose this for Don’s boat (same boat as mine was!) when we brought her into charter.  The AB RIB was just big enough to accommodate three divers, agile enough to get them and their gear to the dive sites, the pontoons were reasonably large to keep riders dry, but reasonably small with good handles for getting in from the water, and, most importantly, it was small enough to fit in the space on the cabin top under our staysail.

I liked the “deck” layout of the AB with the small locker forward and the rowing seat (which we used intermitently.)  I liked having the oars always there stowed on the sides (No oars the in the Whaler! – I took to carrying kayak paddles in case.)

We made this choice because we were thinking ahead to some cruising and the Whaler could not go!  The floor was great to work on with dive gear, but, of course, unlike the whaler the gear had to be laid down in the front part of the dinghy to get it up on a plane.

The RIB was, however, still quite heavy.  We could winch it up alongside the boat with the spinnaker halyard and mast winch on a nightly basis which worked very well, but we had to use the windlass and spinnaker halyard to lift it all the way onto the deck.

Getting it up a beach was pretty near impossible until we discovered Happy Wheels, dinghy wheels, which are very popular with Pacific America cruisers where the tides are much greater than in the Caribbean  BUT it was not something I could do single-handed!

I loved that AB and I loved the Achilles.  Both were of Hypalon material which is the only inflatable material to have in the tropics.  I know there are many new models of both these dinghies now, and I don’t know what I would choose.  I couldn’t deal with a floor that wasn’t flat, like the very lightweight AB.

I don’t like the Caribe’s bigger pontoons, and I really would prefer a dinghy I could beach myself.  (I singlehanded for a month and my solution was to anchor the dinghy off.)

I’m not sure I wouldn’t, for cruising, go back to a dinghy like the Achilles with a soft bottom and removable but rigid floor.  You do have to take more care with soft bottoms when beaching them, than a RIB, but it a LOT lighter.  Hoisting alongside would keep the bottom clean.  Achilles tends to be expensive, but all the old ones around I see are holding up.  AB has some similar models.  Those are the two manufacturers I would first consider.  And probably Avon, though I’ve never loved the Avons, myself, but they are good quality.  Just, be very wary of off brands.  I’ve seen some of them turn sticky in the tropical heat, and Zodiacs will eventually fally apart in the tropical UV.

I DO feel strongly about Yamaha.

The 15hp outboard we had the first 3-4 years of cruising was a Johnson, and it was a lemon from the get go.  It was finally stolen  (one night when we were too lazy to hoist it alongside!) in Huatulco,  Mexico and we almost pitied the thief while we celebrated the opportunity to replace it with a Yamaha. (We did get the dinghy itself back.)

I never had a lick of trouble with either of the Yamahas I have owned.  An old salt insisted that Johnsons would outlast a Yamaha, and my retort was “Why would you want them to!”  It was not the first problematic Johnson I’d had to deal with, but it came with a package price on that AB.

I guess you get what you pay for.  Plus, Yamahas are everywhere, and it is very easy to get service for them, although it is wise to pick a model that is sold world-wide, as opposed to some of the unique models sold to US customers.  However, 15hp is a nice size for cruising if you will be trying to move people and dive gear with any alacrity.  Bigger is better if more people than 2-3, however, and smaller is fine if not schlepping dive gear.

By the way, we also did a lot of spearfishing in our two years in Mexico, and one does need to be careful with spearguns around inflatables.  We never had a pop, but were were always ready in case.  So be sure, if you plan spearing to choose a dinghy with three air chambers.  No sure how they all come these days.  This is hindsight speaking.

Hope this is helpful.

Read also on this website

• Accessorizing the Cruising Dinghy by Gwen Hamlin (Admiral’s Angle Column #67)
• Choosing the Cruising Dinghy’s Outboard by Gwen Hamlin (Admiral’s Angle Column #66)
• Choosing the Cruising Dinghy by Gwen Hamlin (Admiral’s Angle Column #65)
• Any recommendations on outfitting a boat for scuba diving? Gwen Hamlin answers.
• Dinghy Driving 101 (Admiral’s Angle #68) by Gwen Hamlin:
  Driving the dinghy is a real skill worth learning early to support confidence and avoid dependence

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What to do? Like all of the outfitting choices we have to make this one will require evaluation of the options.

If you could point ...Read more]]> Mizzy asks

I need your advice about outfitting to scuba dive. We plan to dive a lot. Neither of us does a lot of deep dives. I do have a collection of tanks. What to do? Like all of the outfitting choices we have to make this one will require evaluation of the options. If you could point me towards an informed choice regarding air aboard I would be grateful.Thanks.

Gwen Hamlin answers

If you love to dive and have room for a compressor, I would go that route instead of the hookah.

Lots of people do choose hookahs, but for me, it restricts you to diving somewhere you can have the boat or dinghy.  But understand I have no real experience with a hookah other than a long-hose version from a tank on deck we used for cleaning the bottom.  The boat we are joining for the summer in Indonesia has a hookah, so I’ll be able to better answer that eventually, but not in time to be helpful to you.

Good friends of ours who didn’t want to carry their own compressor chose instead to carry four tanks.  They could each do two dives before needing to fill (plus sometimes a third shallower dive). Often friends had compressors, or there were nearby land-based operations from which to get fills.  The reality is that in many  places you want to go diving there are dive operations to use.  Often, they know and go to the best dive sites available, and using them relieves you of the anxieties of diving on your own.

But, unfortunately, the above is not always true.  Some of the best dives we have had have been ones we did on our own.  But it does require you conduct your dives with much more vigilance and to equip your boat properly:

We had a Bauer 3.5 cfm gas compressor.  Bauers, built in Germany, are pretty international.  There are other 3.5 cfm compressors available.  You just want to be sure you can get parts, especially filters. I had an electric Bauer compressor on my first boat.  It was quieter, but the gas compressor is in the end more efficient, less costly, and more flexible.

For tanks we had 80 cu ft aluminum tanks.  These are the standard in most places.

However, many cruisers, especially women with good air consumption rates, use the aluminum 50s.  They are smaller, so less bulky. But frankly they have the same footprint as the 80s and then you don’t have the air reserve when you wish you did.

Obviously, if you are going to have your own compressor, you will need your own BC and regulator.  Don’t go for fancy tricked-out models.  Choose basic workhorse models with international distribution so that you can find maintenance anywhere.  Even so,  ask your home scuba shop to put together a service kit of the basic repair/service parts for your regulator and BC before you leave.  Any resort has someone who can service regulators; they may just not have parts for your brand or model.

I recommend a mesh weightbelt to protect your decks with plenty of spare weights.  We each had two belts set up in our locker: one for snorkeling and freediving and another heavier one for scuba when wearing neoprene. Also dive computers for both divers, ideally ones that can be set to a safer algorythm than normal (eg my Suunto).  When out on our own in Mexico or the tropics, we are more prone to dehydration, which can affect our susceptibility to decompression sickness.

So in addition to keep more conservative profiles, I recommend all independent divers carry an oxygen kit (available from DAN – Divers Alert Network ) and their booklet of emergency procedures.  When you are diving on your own, you are totally responsible for yourselves!

Try to find someone to do surface watch for you if possible, mind your tides and currents (especially in pass dives in the Pacific) and at the very least “file a dive plan” (i.e let someone else in the anchorage of within radio distance know you are leaving your boat on a scuba dive and what time you should be back.)

Finally, you should also keep current your DAN membership and recompression insurance.  Even if you don’t dive, we recommend cruisers carry it just for the air evacuation coverage.

For dive suits, what you use will depend on the water temperatures where you plan to dive. For the tropics, I recommend that you have a dive skin (we used Polartec Fleece neutrally-buoyant suits) plus a 2 mm jumpsuit.  Either will protect you from cold and stingy things in most conditions, plus you can layer them up for more warmth.  I also carried a neoprene vest and a hood to add for colder waters.  Also gloves.

I prefer full-foot-style dive fins (not short, floppy, snorkle fins) to the open heel ones because they are more comfortable for snorkeling, but my husband prefers the open-heel version with booties.  I like the idea of booties to have as foot protection and warmth, but I don’t like the idea that my fins will be uncomfortable to use should I lose a bootie!  I did end up wearing neoprene socks under my full-foot fins for extra warmth and foot protection.

Some auxiliary equipment I would recommend are a lift bag (in case you need to salvage something heavy…like a lost anchor or outboard!), a marker buoy, and a line on a reel.  I can’t tell you how many times we found these items useful.  You  might also want to have a third regulator set up with a long hookah hose which is mighty convenient for cleaning the bottom or for a quick jump over the side when something gets entangled in your prop.

You will also probably want to have a medium mesh game bag and possible a spear gun.  Hawaiian slings are legal most everywhere, but always check local fishing regulations.  In Mexico, banded spearguns were prevalent. (The longer the gun, the more accurate!) In the South Pacific, spearfishing quickly dropped off in popularity as the shark population increased.  Generally speaking, sharks don’t bother you unless you are spearfishing!

I also recommend carrying a dive knife and an inflatible emergency pylon (I think they are called.)  This is a gadget you carry rolled up hanging from your BC which in an emergency you can inflate to make you more visible for someone searching for you on the surface.

Although in lucky situations you can dive directly from your sailboat, more often you will use your dinghy to reach a site.  Therefore, you will want to choose a dinghy that is practical to dive from with an outboard substantial enough to move two people and gear across the water.  15hp will do it.

For the dinghy you will want a good anchor and a long rode.  We used a 15# (I think) folding grapnel with 5′ of stainless (so as not to trash the dinghy with rust) chain, and about 150′ of line.  I made it a habit to secure my anchor line twice: once off the bow backed up by a second tied to a stern eye. (In calm conditions I often anchored from the stern.) Finally, you will want to fly a dive flag. I attached mine to a dinghy gaff and stuck it through the handle of the outboard.

You need to be able to get back in your dinghy! The easiest way is to remove your weightbelt, then your slightly-inflated BC holding it by a hose as a tether. Use your fins to then kick yourself up and over the pontoon and then roll to a seated postion with fins still outside the boat. Remove fins, swing around to stand, then heft tank and BC out of the water.  I detail this because it’s amazing how many people don’t figure this out!  If you can’t kick up out the water, you will need some sort of boarding ladder.

Finally, you need some means of giving your gear a fresh-water rinse.  We had a washdown hose on deck connected to a Y-valve in our engine room so that we could switch to fresh water to rinse our gear and ourselves after a dive.  If you are doing multiple dives in one location, collect your fresh water in a bucket to reuse. And, remember that all this silicon gear shouldn’t be left out long in the sun.  UV is your enemy!

Finally, if you have only Open Water certification, I highly recommend at least Advance Open Water training, plus ideally Rescue Diver so you are better equipped to deal with emergencies.  In Advanced Open Water, tell your instructor about your cruising plans.  A good instructor can tailor some of the required exercises to simulate situations you might find yourself in cruising (for example, search and recovery of a lost stern anchor or items dropped overboard.)  Also, you really want to focus on underwater navigation techniques, since you will have to rely on yourselves to get back to the dinghy.  There will be no divemaster up top to come looking for you!

That’s my quick overview of the basics.  If I think of anything else I will let you know.

Hope it is helpful.
Gwen

Read also on this website

• Diving In: Preparations & Gear (Admiral’s Angle #47) by Gwen Hamlin
  How to prepare you boat and yourself to facilitate in-water activities like snorkeling and diving
• Gwen took her SCUBA passion cruising, by Gwen Hamlin

More information (external links)

• Divers Alert Network (DAN): a nonprofit organization that provides emergency medical information and assistance for underwater diving injuries.

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